Out of contract with Verizon - possible smart phone switch without adding data?

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Verizon made the change to require data plans after they had alot of bad press about peoples phones use background data, or their kids used data and generated $2,000 data charges.At&t did the same thing for the same reason. In the last year I was with At&t as a CS rep, I worked on a specialty team who applied those types of credits. Amazingly, in 1 month I applied over $400,000 in similar credits. Makes perfect sense why most major carriers now require data features on smart phones.

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Of course, that was $400,000 in "funny money", at some pay-per-use like $20/MB or whatever rate, $1,000+ in charges covered by some $10-25 data plan.

Anyway, you don't need a IPod or tablet either. Android phone, go into airplane mode so it doesn't waste battery on the inactive cell service, turn on wifi. Put on Skype (not Skype Mobile, that relies on VZW voice, and is buggy as hell anyway) and you even have voice and texts back.

Yes, I agree, a smartphone that was not subsidized, a data block should be an option. But, T-Mobile is the only one that'll do this.

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Of course, that was $400,000 in "funny money", at some pay-per-use like $20/MB or whatever rate, $1,000+ in charges covered by some $10-25 data plan.No disagreement with you there. You would be surprised how large some credits were applied (even if I didn't agree they were deserved).

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Of course, that was $400,000 in "funny money", at some pay-per-use like $20/MB or whatever rate, $1,000+ in charges covered by some $10-25 data plan.You see it as funny money, the carrier sees it as lost revenue. That is $400k in money that they rightfully earned and now will not be collecting. If someone watches pay per view movies on cable all month long and racks up thousands in pay per view charges, is it the cable company's fault that they charge $4 per pay per view movie when their actual fees for the movie works out to be less than a penny per view? Should they not collect those fees owed to them? Or say you receive a letter from your employer stating that they will be doubling your salary. Then they come back to you after you ask why your paycheck didn't go up and they say "oops, the letter was sent to you in error, you didn't get a raise". Would you say ok, just pay me my regular salary?

Ignorance, or "we didn't know we were using data" is no excuse....just like "we didn't know the speed limit was only 30" is no excuse in traffic court when you're busted doing 55.

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Has the Verizon unlimited boat sailed? Fed up AT&T customer looking to switch...

   

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Maybe you missed the last line of my original post. I just want to get in, then upgrade or switch to the iPhone.Try the prepaid way. Not sure if you can bring your own device to prepaid, I don't see why you can't. I think you can get the Motorola Citrus for cheap. You can then from there call a number (not sure if a store will do it) and see if they can grandfather your unlimited data in from it.

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My plan to switch over to VZ before July 7th...

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07-02-2011, 01:33 AM My plan to switch over to VZ before July 7th... I'm currently with Sprint...been with them for over a decade...I've been wanting to go over to VZ forever for their excellent cellular service, but I've been waiting for them to release a new Blackberry so I can take advantage of the contract price, AND I also want unlimited data....well, we all know I'm not going to be able to get that if I wait until they release a new BB....so this is my plan, tell me what ya think:

I'm looking to buy a either a used Blackberry Storm 2 or Bold from craigslist (~$100-150)...then on Sunday, I'm going to go over to VZ to sign up for a new account and port my number over from Sprint and get me an iPhone...I'm going to see if I can get them to activate the phone without taking it out of the box...once activated (so I can get it at a contract price), I will have them activate the Blackberry (from craigslist) for me, and I will sell the iPhone on ebay...then when a new Blackberry comes out, I will use the money I made on the iPhone and buy the BB at full price....

what do ya think? Or can anyone give me a better idea? I don't think they would let me get a plan and use the discount on the phone 2 months later, will they?

Also, between the Storm 2 vs the Bold, which would you recommend? I currently have a Bold with Sprint, but I don't know how the Storm 2 would compare to it....thanX

07-02-2011, 09:36 AM Originally Posted by MeetJoeAsian I'm currently with Sprint...been with them for over a decade...I've been wanting to go over to VZ forever for their excellent cellular service, but I've been waiting for them to release a new Blackberry so I can take advantage of the contract price, AND I also want unlimited data....well, we all know I'm not going to be able to get that if I wait until they release a new BB....so this is my plan, tell me what ya think:

Sounds like an idea. I have the bold 9650 (for sale as well, pm me about it, asking 150). My husband had both storms. I personally pefer the bold. I just couldn't get used to that surepress.
I'm looking to buy a either a used Blackberry Storm 2 or Bold from craigslist (~$100-150)...then on Sunday, I'm going to go over to VZ to sign up for a new account and port my number over from Sprint and get me an iPhone...I'm going to see if I can get them to activate the phone without taking it out of the box...once activated (so I can get it at a contract price), I will have them activate the Blackberry (from craigslist) for me, and I will sell the iPhone on ebay...then when a new Blackberry comes out, I will use the money I made on the iPhone and buy the BB at full price....

what do ya think? Or can anyone give me a better idea? I don't think they would let me get a plan and use the discount on the phone 2 months later, will they?

Also, between the Storm 2 vs the Bold, which would you recommend? I currently have a Bold with Sprint, but I don't know how the Storm 2 would compare to it....thanX

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07-02-2011, 10:51 PM Originally Posted by howarmat I would just get a brand new bold for $30 on contact and use it. Forget the iphone al together. Then you are set with the new contract and you can buy the 9900 off contract at full price when it comes out. Sell the bold then for a little $$ to help pay for the 9900Here's what I figured, if I buy the iphone now for $299, and sell it on ebay for $600-650, and when the new BB comes out, I'm sure full price will probably be $599, or $299 w/contract...so I'll end up getting the new BB at the original contract price....whereas, if I buy the Bold now for $30, and when the new BB comes out, I sell the Bold for say $150, I'll still need to pay over $450 more to get the new BB....and I've talked to a few reps, and I have friend at VZ who'll activate the BB with me after they active the Iphone for me...

the reason why I picked the iPhone was because of its high resell value...

Last edited by MeetJoeAsian; 07-02-2011 at 10:54 PM. 07-04-2011, 11:23 PM Originally Posted by MeetJoeAsian I'm currently with Sprint...been with them for over a decade...I've been wanting to go over to VZ forever for their excellent cellular service, but I've been waiting for them to release a new Blackberry so I can take advantage of the contract price, AND I also want unlimited data....well, we all know I'm not going to be able to get that if I wait until they release a new BB....so this is my plan, tell me what ya think:

I'm looking to buy a either a used Blackberry Storm 2 or Bold from craigslist (~$100-150)...then on Sunday, I'm going to go over to VZ to sign up for a new account and port my number over from Sprint and get me an iPhone...I'm going to see if I can get them to activate the phone without taking it out of the box...once activated (so I can get it at a contract price), I will have them activate the Blackberry (from craigslist) for me, and I will sell the iPhone on ebay...then when a new Blackberry comes out, I will use the money I made on the iPhone and buy the BB at full price....

what do ya think? Or can anyone give me a better idea? I don't think they would let me get a plan and use the discount on the phone 2 months later, will they?

Also, between the Storm 2 vs the Bold, which would you recommend? I currently have a Bold with Sprint, but I don't know how the Storm 2 would compare to it....thanX

It's funny. I have been considering doing this for the past week as well. I have a used bold 9650 I would look to get hooked up though. I was considering using my discount to get the iphone 4 for close to $150, but had second thoughts, when I would likely only be able to get less than 200-250 new in box for it.

I even contacted a live chat service rep asking about signing a new 2 year contract now and them sending me a debit card or voucher for a new phone about 3 months from now, and she said they couldn't.

I work nights, and I'm hoping I can get up tomorrow am and make my way to the local VZ for more disappointment.

I don't want to be stuck with an old phone for another 2 years. Or buy an overpriced(non discount) bold touch that will most likely be defective. Like every other BB I have owned.

Oh, I was offered a trade in value of $8 for my storm.

I will wait till i have everything saved or backed up, and stomp the **** out of this piece of ****.

07-05-2011, 12:12 AM OK...I pulled the trigger on Sunday...however, I didn't have to buy a phone from them....they ported my number over from Sprint and started my non-contract account because I brought my own VZ phone in...they said I will get my discount and will have to sign a 2-yr contract once I buy my phone, and as long as I sign up and get a data plan before July 7th, I will be grandfathered in....

In Texas and a few other southern states, VZ has a promo for Talk & Text with unlimited mobile to ANYmobile for $64, and it comes with 450 minutes for calls received from or made to land line (it was only $59 a few months ago, but I waited...hehehe)...and then + $29/month for unlimited data...usually with that plan, you'd have to sign a 2 year contract, but you don't have to (yeah, weird, don't ask me to explain)...and then I found out today that because I work for Toyota, I get 20% off my entire bill on top of everything, so I'm getting that done tomorrow too...

so yeah, bottom line is that when the next BB drops, I will sign a 2-yr contract then, and get my phone at the contract price and I will continue to have unlimited data....I'm a happy camper...

07-05-2011, 10:58 AM Device Model: 8900 Javelin x2 (Mine 5.0.0.1067) & (Wifes 4.6.1.231) & Backup 8320 Curve (4.5.0.81)Carrier: T-Mobile w/Fam. Unlimited Loyalty $89.98, Fam. Unlimited Messages $19.95, Unlimited Data $19.99 X 2PIN: T-Mobile customer since 2002! Originally Posted by MeetJoeAsian so yeah, bottom line is that when the next BB drops, I will sign a 2-yr contract then, and get my phone at the contract price and I will continue to have unlimited data....I'm a happy camper...From everything I have read on this issue, this is incorrect.

The way I read it, as long as you don't upgrade your device or sign a new contract, you can keep your grandfathered unlimited data plan, but once you upgrade your phone and sign a new contract in the future, you will be switched to a tiered data plan.

If there is something concrete that says otherwise, I would like a link to the information.

I am planning to switch to Verizon when the Monaco comes to them, so I have really been watching this situation.

07-05-2011, 11:13 AM Device Model: Droid X and XoomPIN: No pin. I root it and boot it! Originally Posted by BlackBerry Brian From everything I have read on this issue, this is incorrect.

The way I read it, as long as you don't upgrade your device or sign a new contract, you can keep your grandfathered unlimited data plan, but once you upgrade your phone and sign a new contract in the future, you will be switched to a tiered data plan.

If there is something concrete that says otherwise, I would like a link to the information.

I am planning to switch to Verizon when the Monaco comes to them, so I have really been watching this situation.

If you her unlimited data before 07/07 then you would be grandfathered in. Getting a new phone after that means you would keep unlimited. So what ever info you got was wrong.

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